— How did you end up in Kazakhstan? Did you decide to move immediately?
— I actually wanted to move for a while, but I did not know where exactly. I suggested it to my husband, but he rejected all options because he did not see himself as an emigrant. He was born and raised in Moscow, lived there his whole life and never really travelled anywhere. Myself — I am a migrant and a Ukrainian and I lived in Russia half of my life. And when the war started, I naturally wanted to take everything and leave.
But since I am with two children and my husband, it is impossible to do this by simply taking everything and leaving for nowhere. I couldn’t find a way out — where to go, what to do… all this time was very difficult for me.
Constantly just news and news… I told my husband that we needed to leave somewhere. He answered, “Yes, go ahead, look. I'm working, and you look. Wherever you say, we’ll go there.” And when the mobilisation happened, there was nothing to even think about, because my husband received a subpoena. Not specifically to be mobilised, but “to clarify his data.” This was right the day before mobilisation was announced. My heart sensed that of all the people my husband would be the first one taken away if there was mobilisation.